Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by DJBlu » Mon May 10, 2021 12:21 am

Sorry to piss on the bonfire but the ship has set sail. I wouldn't want any player from the previous 10 years. It's been fecking arduous.

Yesterday felt like the cast had been taken off and we started walking again.

There are some excellent players in that list DSB but it'll just reignite memories of old. We don't need that as a club.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 10, 2021 7:09 am

DJBlu wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 12:21 am
Sorry to piss on the bonfire but the ship has set sail. I wouldn't want any player from the previous 10 years. It's been fecking arduous.

Yesterday felt like the cast had been taken off and we started walking again.

There are some excellent players in that list DSB but it'll just reignite memories of old. We don't need that as a club.
Alex Baptiste says hi. The right player with the right attitude and who improves us it doesn’t matter. Not sure there are many if any in that category from that list like but still.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 10, 2021 9:08 am

Never really my favourite player, but someone on DSB's ex-Wandering Dole Scum list who's caught the eye recently is Josh Magennis. I'd really like to see someone like him playing just behind Doyle. There be goals between 'em right there and a torrid time for defenders, I reckon.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 10, 2021 9:15 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:08 am
Never really my favourite player, but someone on DSB's ex-Wandering Dole Scum list who's caught the eye recently is Josh Magennis. I'd really like to see someone like him playing just behind Doyle. There be goals between 'em right there and a torrid time for defenders, I reckon.
He's the SORT of striker we need. Also the sort of 'striker' we absolutely should not touch with a bargepole. If you get my drift....

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Jeux sans frontiéres » Mon May 10, 2021 9:16 am

I agree that most of the players we had previously won't be Ian Evatt types and we should instead look forward to seeing some new talent at the MacroBol. (As an aside, I hear on the grapevine that UoB used protected funds to pay for the stadium naming rights so would expect they’ll be required to cancel that deal for next year).

Anyway, the one player I would have back from the past few years is the LWB we had from Stoke on loan. He could really do a job with Dapo and John.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 10, 2021 9:36 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:15 am
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:08 am
Never really my favourite player, but someone on DSB's ex-Wandering Dole Scum list who's caught the eye recently is Josh Magennis. I'd really like to see someone like him playing just behind Doyle. There be goals between 'em right there and a torrid time for defenders, I reckon.
He's the SORT of striker we need. Also the sort of 'striker' we absolutely should not touch with a bargepole. If you get my drift....
I do, yeah. :D
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 10, 2021 9:41 am

Jeux sans frontiéres wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:16 am

Anyway, the one player I would have back from the past few years is the LWB we had from Stoke on loan. He could really do a job with Dapo and John.
Thibaud Verlinden - superb for us; not sure he's done much since going back to Stoke.

I'd certainly have thought he's Evatt's 'type'.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by boltonboris » Mon May 10, 2021 9:49 am

He broke into Stoke's 1st team, suffered an injury and then had a mutual contract termination

He's playing in the Eredivisie for Fortuna Sittard now
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 10, 2021 9:57 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:41 am
Jeux sans frontiéres wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:16 am

Anyway, the one player I would have back from the past few years is the LWB we had from Stoke on loan. He could really do a job with Dapo and John.
Thibaud Verlinden - superb for us; not sure he's done much since going back to Stoke.

I'd certainly have thought he's Evatt's 'type'.
Didn't work hard enough from what I remember to play in an Evatt side. Quick and tricky but I rather suspect a flash in the pan type. The few players from that team that looked good, your Crawfords, Darcy's etc all seem to have fallen by the wayside under IE.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by officer_dibble » Mon May 10, 2021 11:21 am

You have to remember Keith Hill was Verlindens manager. Evatt seems to get the best out of players - Gethin Jones I think is a prime example.

I wonder about Elbouzedi as he had the raw attributes. Seemed to struggle with decision making but if you can work on that...

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 10, 2021 11:25 am

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You have to remember Keith Hill was Verlindens manager. Evatt seems to get the best out of players - Gethin Jones I think is a prime example.

I wonder about Elbouzedi as he had the raw attributes. Seemed to struggle with decision making but if you can work on that...
Crawford? Darcy? I suspect Keith Hill played in a way to suit those players whereas IE for all the beautiful game talk approaches games off the ball in quite a Sam Allardyce or Parky way with numbers behind the ball, wingers doubling up and a very hard structure to break down - this means a lot of work so not convinced by Verlinden really fitting what we do now.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by officer_dibble » Mon May 10, 2021 1:29 pm

Crawford looked good for a few months. He’s not done anything at their place and he underwhelmed here for half a season. Odd one. Darcy to me feels unlucky not to get more game time before Christmas but he wasn’t ousting anyone after January. But yeah point taken, all players play differently for different managers.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 10, 2021 1:35 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 1:29 pm
Crawford looked good for a few months. He’s not done anything at their place and he underwhelmed here for half a season. Odd one. Darcy to me feels unlucky not to get more game time before Christmas but he wasn’t ousting anyone after January. But yeah point taken, all players play differently for different managers.
I don't think we need to look much further than our own recent experience to note that sometimes players play differently under the same manager.

Crawford looked awful in a bad Bolton team whose formation and personnel dictated he was more or less the only creative fulcrum, but he could be very different in a good Bolton team playing 4-2-3-1. I'm not saying he *will* or indeed that we shouldn't look to move him on, like, but it's not impossible.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by officer_dibble » Mon May 10, 2021 1:43 pm

At a guess I would say he was one who suffered through lockdown - supposedly spent a lot of time driving back up north. I reckon he will be released - Carlisle?

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by irie Cee Bee » Mon May 10, 2021 4:52 pm

We have a nucleus of players who understand Evatt's methods so anyone who comes in should improve us in those positions which need strengthening. Looking forward to this discussion, but it seems to me that as we step up in Divisions, the pace of the game gets quicker. So in my opinion, we should be shopping after Championship players out of contract (eg. like we did with Lee, Johns etc..) to improve us, and who have played at that pace.

Based on the earlier list of former players posted, I am not in favor of bringing any of those back. That ship has sailed and I can't see how they would improve us, plus there are better players out there I am sure. Looking forward to Politic lighting up L1. An exciting player.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon May 10, 2021 4:58 pm

Out of contract, mature championship players is a good shout but with an eye still on the moneyball approach I'd like to see us looking closely at released youngsters from both that division and the Premier league.

Discovering another Robinson or Armstrong, and actually having a manager who can get the best out of them, is the best bet to boost our finances.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:58 pm
Out of contract, mature championship players is a good shout but with an eye still on the moneyball approach I'd like to see us looking closely at released youngsters from both that division and the Premier league.

Discovering another Robinson or Armstrong, and actually having a manager who can get the best out of them, is the best bet to boost our finances.
Don’t think you will hear the word moneyball mentioned. That went out the window with Tobias.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon May 10, 2021 8:00 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 pm
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:58 pm
Out of contract, mature championship players is a good shout but with an eye still on the moneyball approach I'd like to see us looking closely at released youngsters from both that division and the Premier league.

Discovering another Robinson or Armstrong, and actually having a manager who can get the best out of them, is the best bet to boost our finances.
Don’t think you will hear the word moneyball mentioned. That went out the window with Tobias.
Aye, I dare say we'll not hear the term but the principle remains the same. We need to develop and sell on, young talent. Compare our situation when we were relegated from the Championship, with Wigan. Our few saleable assets left for free unpaid. They had several millions worth of talent who they had developed that they had to let go cheaply. We're a bigger draw than they are and we have to make sure we beat them in future to such players.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 10, 2021 8:20 pm

Said it before but one player I’d have back in the blink of an eye if there was any chance is Kioso. Salivating at the thought of John and Kioso as our full backs. Yes we’d be suspect defensively but we’d be exciting. Watched a bit of Pompey Accrington and I think we need some physicality adding to the side and Kioso is the sort who would fit that bill.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 10, 2021 9:06 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:52 pm
we should be shopping after Championship players out of contract (eg. like we did with Lee, John etc..) to improve us, and who have played at that pace.
Here's a recently compiled list of Champo players whose contracts are lapsing – doesn't mean they won't be offered terms, or would be interested in dropping down a division. But it's a long summer ahead...

* – Club has option to extend player’s contract by a year
*1 – Club has option to buy player permanently

EDIT I'll endeavour to update this (in blue) as clubs announce their retained list, but I can't promise I'll be super-diligent

AFC Bournemouth
Steve Cook
Adam Smith
Jack Wilshere
Junior Stanislas
Asmir Begovic

Barnsley
Alex Mowatt
Victor Adeboyejo

Birmingham City
Alen Halilovic
Jon Toral*
Josh Dacres-Cogley
Caolan Boyd-Munce
Steve Seddon

Blackburn Rovers
Corry Evans – RELEASED
Charlie Mulgrew – RELEASED
Amari’i Bell – RELEASED
Stewart Downing – RELEASED
Lewis Holtby – RELEASED
Joe Grayson – RELEASED
Stefan Mols – RELEASED
Lewis Thompson – RELEASED
Ben Paton – RELEASED
Brad Lyons – RELEASED
Tom White – RELEASED
Elliott Bennett – CONTRACT OFFERED
Harry Chapman – CONTRACT OFFERED
Ryan Nyambe, Joe Rothwell, Joe Rankin-Costello, Bradley Johnson – CONTRACT EXTENDED

Brentford
Emiliano Marcondes
Henrik Dalsgaard
Luke Daniels*

Bristol City
Hakeeb Adelakun - RELEASED
Nathan Baker - RELEASED
Famara Diédhiou - RELEASED
Rene Gilmartin - RELEASED
Jack Hunt - RELEASED
Henri Lansbury - RELEASED
Adrian Mariappa - RELEASED
Jamie Paterson - RELEASED
Tommy Rowe - RELEASED
Liam Walsh - RELEASED
Marley Watkins - RELEASED
Danny Simpson - CONTRACT OFFERED
Andreas Weimann - CONTRACT OFFERED

Cardiff City
Joe Bennett
Junior Hoilett
Sol Bamba

Coventry City
Dominic Hyam*
Maxime Biamou
Kyle McFadzean
Liam Kelly
Jordan Shipley
Amadou Bakayoko
Jodi Jones
Jordon Thompson
Josh Eccles

Derby County
Martyn Waghorn
Andre Wisdom
Emmanuel Idem
Curtis Davies

Huddersfield Town
Tommy Elphick – RELEASED
Alex Pritchard – RELEASED
Oumar Niasse – RELEASED
Richard Stearman – RELEASED
Jayson Leutwiler – RELEASED
Demeaco Duhaney – RELEASED
Christopher Schindler – RELEASED
Jaden Brown – RELEASED
Yaya Sanogo – RELEASED
Fraizer Campbell – NEW CONTRACT SIGNED
Álex Vallejo - EXTENSION CLAUSE TRIGGERED
Juninho Bacuna - EXTENSION CLAUSE TRIGGERED
Isaac Mbenza - EXTENSION CLAUSE TRIGGERED
Romoney Crichlow - EXTENSION CLAUSE TRIGGERED
Richard Keogh – IN DISCUSSIONS

Luton Town
Sonny Bradley
Pelly Ruddock Mpanzu*
Matty Pearson
James Collins
Luke Berry*
Dan Potts
Ryan Tunnicliffe
George Moncur
Kazenga LuaLua
Danny Hylton

Middlesbrough
Britt Assombalonga
Ashley Fletcher
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing
Marvin Johnson
Jordan Archer

Millwall
Ben Thompson
Murray Wallace
Matt Smith
Shane Ferguson
Shaun Williams
Frank Fielding
Billy Mitchell

Norwich City
Orjan Nyland
Mario Vranic
Alexander Tettey

Nottingham Forest
Sammy Ameobi
Yuri Ribeiro
Samba Sow
Glenn Murray
Michael Hefele
Abdoulaye Diallo
Michael Dawson
Preston North End
Greg Cunningham
Billy Bodin
Paul Gallagher
Louis Moult

PNE
Louis Moult – RELEASED
Billy Bodin – RELEASED
Josh Ginnelly – RELEASED
Graham Burke – RELEASED
David Nugent – RELEASED
Paul Gallagher - RETIRED, COACHING


QPR
Tom Carroll*
Joe Lumley
Geoff Cameron
Lee Wallace
Charlie Owens

Reading
Luke Southwood - SIGNED NEW CONTRACT
Michael Morrison - SIGNED NEW CONTRACT
Tom McInTyre - OFFERED NEW CONTRACT
Omar Richards - OFFERED NEW CONTRACT
Sam Baldock – RELEASED
Sone Aluko – RELEASED
Sam Walker – RELEASED


Rotherham
Matthew Olosunde
Billy Jones
Clark Robertson
Shaun MacDonald
Richard Wood
Jake Hull
Josh Vickers

Sheffield Wednesday
Adam Reach
Tom Lees
Barry Bannan
Izzy Brown*1
Kadeem Harris
Joost van Aken
Elias Kachunga
Jordan Rhodes
Moses Odubajo
Joey Pelupessy
Matt Penney
Osaze Urhoghide
Alex Hunt
Keiren Westwood
Ciaran Brennan
Liam Waldock
Ben Hughes
Joshua Render

Stoke City
Nick Powell
James Chester
John Mikel Obi
Jordan Cousins
Blondy Nna Noukeu

Swansea City
Andre Ayew
Kieron Freeman
Wayne Routledge

Watford
Christian Kabasele
Kiko Femenia
Troy Deeney
Carlos Sanchez
Achraf Lazaar
Rob Elliot
Kane Crichlow

Wycombe Wanderers
Ryan Allsop - RELEASED
Cameron Yates - RELEASED
Giles Phillips - RELEASED
Darius Charles - RELEASED
Andron Georgiou - RELEASED
Curtis Anderson - EXTENDED
Anis Mehmeti - EXTENDED
Malachi Linton - EXTENDED
James Clark - EXTENDED
Adebayo Akinfenwa – CONTRACT OFFERED
Curtis Thompson – CONTRACT OFFERED
Alex Pattison – CONTRACT OFFERED
Adebayo Akinfenwa – CONTRACT OFFERED
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