Well, the title says it all. For the last few home games ive been falling to sleep in the first half...

Also the football we play is so bad, that i think it is the worst in the prem. We have lost 18 games this season, that is one of the lowest in the prem, and half the games all season, and drawn 6. We need sorting out before next season, before it gets embarrasing.

eddybwfc wrote:

Well, the title says it all. For the last few home games ive been falling to sleep in the first half... Also the football we play is so bad, that i think it is the worst in the prem. We have lost 18 games this season, that is one of the lowest in the prem, and half the games all season, and drawn 6. We need sorting out before next season, before it gets embarrasing.

Have a red bull if you're falling asleep. Even better see a doctor.

You're now getting to the point alot did when Allardyce was in charge. We need to win and we need to win good. Get over it, we are doing a job who cares if it aint pretty.

Very....

We arn't quite the worst team in the prem and the team are trying to play more football, its just that we have quite a few very average / poor quality players, who are just are not capable of stringing 2 passes together. Allardyce's Blackburn are now worse than us to watch IMO - constant long balls / long throws as are Stoke - but we are very boring to watch but then again we have been for the past 3 years.

Megson has publically stated that we have very little quality but are very honest & hard working, which is a very accurate assessment - but he now needs to back this up by signing 4 quality players with pace, energy and some ability.

I don't rate A OB, J Lloyd, Muamba & McCann for me they are simply not good enough if we want to improve, and shouldn't be in the 1st team next season (back up maybe but 1st team definately no)

Although ideally I think we are 5 players short of being a good team.

I think we need a new Centre Half, Left Back, Central ball playing midfielder, quick pacy right winger and a centre forward who is comfortable in front of goal.

I think Elmander is a decent player who would flourish with better quality around him, and a midfield who have energy and pace and who get up to support him.

Aye, another blatant team-knocking thread, that's just what we need for morale.

"Mid table respectability is what we need this season and build from there" was the theme song of many at the start of the season. Well, looks like we got it. More "exciting" teams then us are much better revered, Newcastle, Sunderland, Hull, Stoke, Blackburn, Middlesboro, West Brom etc, who don't play boring football....oh, wait a minute...

No, I'm not knocking your views or your right to have them, just expressing my own in the same light. Reality is a handy thing to keep in mind.

Don't see why it's blatant team knocking at all. Eddy rightly acknowledges we need a rocket up our backside before next August, assuming next Aug our first fixture will be against a Premiership club.

The whole matchday experience is tiresome. in-fighting amonst the fans, bitter bile spat in the direction of the dugout and diretors area and some of the most unimaginative and inept football we've been subjected to in the last two decades.

For some people it's not just a case of turning the stream off if we're shit. It's a case of having to sit there through this utter torture of seeing teams like West Brom, Fulham and Wigan come to our own patch and play us off the park. We have to sit there watching Jlloyd run into opponents, see Muamba's skewed shots, McCann fecking up 5-yard passes and Elmander get beat to every ball in the air.

A few seasons ago we were a team in our managers image. Brash, abrasive, aggressive, forthright, honest ultimately limited but successful. We're now a team in our current managers image - bland, boring, not worth watching or listening to and unliked by pretty much everyone.

hisroyalgingerness wrote:

A few seasons ago we were a team in our managers image. Brash, abrasive, aggressive, forthright, honest ultimately limited but successful. We're now a team in our current managers image - bland, boring, not worth watching or listening to and unliked by pretty much everyone.

This seems about right to me. I think Megson could do with mixing it up. Seems that most of the players that Megson have bought have been around the same sort of quality for varying prices.

The defensive aspect of the game has been focused on too strongly IMO. We've brought in the likes of Cahill, Steinsson, Muamba and Shittu for around £15m, when the creative side of our game, Riga, Cohen and M.Davies have been free, £37k and £1m respectively. Our strikeforce has been given £8.5m or so. As far as I see it we've neglected our midfield and got away with it.

A good amount spent on a midfielder as was to be given on Veloso would go down nicely and fill in a few gaps. But if he was injured we're back to the same sort of problems we had before.

hisroyalgingerness wrote:

For some people it's not just a case of turning the stream off if we're shit. .

Ah, the "I'm a better fan than you" dig again hey? Wondered how long it would be. Okay, carry on as you were.

I wasn't even aware they forced you buy tickets to matches (or season tickets) nowadays!

TANGODANCER wrote:

hisroyalgingerness wrote: For some people it's not just a case of turning the stream off if we're shit. . Ah, the "I'm a better fan than you" dig again hey? Wondered how long it would be. Okay, carry on as you were.

You're paranoid. No such sentiment

hisroyalgingerness wrote:

TANGODANCER wrote: hisroyalgingerness wrote: For some people it's not just a case of turning the stream off if we're shit. . Ah, the "I'm a better fan than you" dig again hey? Wondered how long it would be. Okay, carry on as you were. You're paranoid. No such sentiment

Nope. Not even mildly annoyed (rhymes). Just don't see the need for writing it.

Chelsea play some of the most boring football in the Premiership (it used to be 1-0 win Arsenal) but can score goals even though their football is boring, campared with the current play of United, Arseanal, even Liverpool, etc, etc. Its just that they can score goals and win games, which makes all the difference to enjoyment for the "home" fans.

Mind a lot of us complained at the way we played under Sam (and I was one of them) even though we were successful for a time.

Let us not forget that Mourinho went because he played football that wasn't entertaining enough for the owners. Would anyone take Mourinho at Bolton?

It's important we don't confuse boring with a genuine lack of quality.

I think Megson, supported by a decent coaching staff, does play a more purist style of football then BSA, but we haven't got the quality in the team, particularly in midfield to deliver an entertaining spectacle for the fans.

If we had Okocha and Speed in the existing midfield, with say McCann, then we would see a lot more entertaining and successful football. But we don't, so we don't.

Team rebuilding at BWFC has to be a gradual process so Meggo needs to continue it by buying at least two decent midfielders in the summer, as well as another forward to provide competition or even improve on Elmander / Davies.

Midfield has to be priority this summer (including wingers..right sided ones) followed by a centre back partner for Cahill if possible, and an out and out striker to finish.

FD wrote:

Let us not forget that Mourinho went because he played football that wasn't entertaining enough for the owners. Would anyone take Mourinho at Bolton?

Some probably wouldn't. Then a large number would love it until our first defeat, then wheel out the pitchforks and bedsheets, and cite a fifth place as "a lack of ambition". Some would love Mourinho to be here, but demand he drop whichever Portugese star he brought to the club because he didn't score eight in his first twenty minutes in a Bolton shirt, "because we paid a lot of money for him".

Can't half tell we didn't win, eh? I wonder if this thread had existed had Cahill's effort hit the underside of the bar and gone in?

TANGODANCER wrote:

hisroyalgingerness wrote: For some people it's not just a case of turning the stream off if we're shit. . Ah, the "I'm a better fan than you" dig again hey? Wondered how long it would be. Okay, carry on as you were.

I can't see where Ginge went to touch a nerve there at all, Tango, but he clearly touched one of yours?!?!

hisroyalgingerness wrote:

Don't see why it's blatant team knocking at all. Eddy rightly acknowledges we need a rocket up our backside before next August, assuming next Aug our first fixture will be against a Premiership club. The whole matchday experience is tiresome. in-fighting amonst the fans, bitter bile spat in the direction of the dugout and diretors area and some of the most unimaginative and inept football we've been subjected to in the last two decades. For some people it's not just a case of turning the stream off if we're shit. It's a case of having to sit there through this utter torture of seeing teams like West Brom, Fulham and Wigan come to our own patch and play us off the park. We have to sit there watching Jlloyd run into opponents, see Muamba's skewed shots, McCann fecking up 5-yard passes and Elmander get beat to every ball in the air. A few seasons ago we were a team in our managers image. Brash, abrasive, aggressive, forthright, honest ultimately limited but successful. We're now a team in our current managers image - bland, boring, not worth watching or listening to and unliked by pretty much everyone.

Its posts like this that just piss me off.

One sided and just chucking cliches around like confetti. Just because its a cliche doesn't make it a truth!

Firstly why the fook shouldn't a Wigan or a West Brom or a Fulham play us off the park sometimes? Who the fook are we? Have we suddenly become big time charlies like Newcastle (snigger) fans?

Secondly it doesn't mention all the times we've played teams like Portsmouth, West Ham, Sunderland, Middlesbrough etc off the park. Or do those games simply not count?

As for playing in the managers image, thats one of the most over used ridiculous cliches that really winds me up. Allardyce's image is hardly a positive one. Playing in that image is hardly a positive. Megson is making us play more football than Allardyce did. We aren't just "hitting and hoping". Even a blind man could tell and see that.

But as someone else has hinted at we haven't been able to find the "cheapish" quality Allardyce had available to him so therefore we struggle at times.

However, dismissing everything as being "shite" really doesn't answer anything.

As for the fans being tits, thats hardly the clubs fault. Not a lot Gartside or Megson can do about that is it? Short of banning them, which I'd fully support!

im not trying to knock us, im normally the one to back up when theres megson out threads, just stating my opinion...

If everybody is honest then we are a bad team who play bad football. WBA looked quality on MOTD, and could actually pass, we just dont play like...
Hard to explain but it is poor football and if megson dosent get funds to change it in summer then i think we could be on our way.

Look at newcastle, boro, what the odds for these to go down at the begining of the season must of been so high, we will be in exactly the same position soon.

Besides, the main point was that we pay for shi*e football and its boring, and nobody can say its not.

eddybwfc wrote:

WBA looked quality on MOTD

That's because it's a highlights show.

eddybwfc wrote:

im not trying to knock us, im normally the one to back up when theres megson out threads, just stating my opinion... If everybody is honest then we are a bad team who play bad football. WBA looked quality on MOTD, and could actually pass, we just dont play like... Hard to explain but it is poor football and if megson dosent get funds to change it in summer then i think we could be on our way. Look at newcastle, boro, what the odds for these to go down at the begining of the season must of been so high, we will be in exactly the same position soon. Besides, the main point was that we pay for shi*e football and its boring, and nobody can say its not.

Fact is there are 7 or 8 worse teams than us.

The league table does not lie.

Have you watched Sunderland with all their signings who everyone creamed themselves over saying we should have bought like Malbranque?

They look shite.

Malbranque has been a disastrous signing, picking up his wages and not giving a shiny shite.

Its all very well saying we aren't the most attractive side in the league, which we aren't but we're far and away the worst.

If you think there is one West Brom fan who wouldn't swap positions with us then you're as bad as those Geordies and Mackems.