Films You Hate, But Other People Rate.

Lord Kangana · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:25 pm

And quicker.

The Axman · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:25 pm

That's horrible. It'll give me knightmares.

William the White · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:43 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:

William the White wrote:

boltonboris wrote:

"The Artist"

Fvckin' wank. I can only assume it won an oscar because people were scared to say it was shite and boring in case they came across as 'uncultured'.

Granted I was pissed up when I watched it.. Well some of it.. Turned it off after about 45 minutes

Just the five oscars... Obviously very big fear of coming across as uncultured over there in LA...

I enjoyed it but have been surprised by the level of acclaim it has received. I'm not sure it's a fear of coming across as uncultured, as such... I think you might appreciate Prospero's review in The Economist (I happen to disagree witha few of his points...):

http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero ... emy-awards

An ungenerous review, I thought. I enjoyed the movie a lot. A slight film, but clever, made me smile, moving sometimes, liked the way it played with classic American movie conventions. The gumph at the end of the review about being servile to America when France was the real cradle of cinema showed a critic straining to make a case that really is unconvincing. Thought the critic's strongest point was the protagonist's unlikeability making it puzzling that so many seemed to care about him. Especially the dog.

Worthy4England · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:58 pm

William the White wrote:

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:

William the White wrote:

boltonboris wrote:

"The Artist"

Fvckin' wank. I can only assume it won an oscar because people were scared to say it was shite and boring in case they came across as 'uncultured'.

Granted I was pissed up when I watched it.. Well some of it.. Turned it off after about 45 minutes

Just the five oscars... Obviously very big fear of coming across as uncultured over there in LA...

I enjoyed it but have been surprised by the level of acclaim it has received. I'm not sure it's a fear of coming across as uncultured, as such... I think you might appreciate Prospero's review in The Economist (I happen to disagree witha few of his points...):

http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero ... emy-awards

An ungenerous review, I thought. I enjoyed the movie a lot. A slight film, but clever, made me smile, moving sometimes, liked the way it played with classic American movie conventions. The gumph at the end of the review about being servile to America when France was the real cradle of cinema showed a critic straining to make a case that really is unconvincing. Thought the critic's strongest point was the protagonist's unlikeability making it puzzling that so many seemed to care about him. Especially the dog.

There's only one thing I'm still uncertain about after that most eloquent few words, before determining whether to rent it out and watch it.

Are there plenty of tits in it?

Wandering Willy · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:01 pm

Yeah - but the subtitles get in the way.

lovethesmellofnapalm · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:25 pm

boltonboris wrote:

"The Artist"

Fvckin' wank. I can only assume it won an oscar because people were scared to say it was shite and boring in case they came across as 'uncultured'.

Granted I was pissed up when I watched it.. Well some of it.. Turned it off after about 45 minutes

Don't know if it is or not but gave up going to fillums that win Oscars after that "American Beauty" shite.
American navel gazing at its worst that was

William the White · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:46 pm

lovethesmellofnapalm wrote:

boltonboris wrote:

"The Artist"

Fvckin' wank. I can only assume it won an oscar because people were scared to say it was shite and boring in case they came across as 'uncultured'.

Granted I was pissed up when I watched it.. Well some of it.. Turned it off after about 45 minutes

Don't know if it is or not but gave up going to fillums that win Oscars after that "American Beauty" shite.
American navel gazing at its worst that was

Excellent film...

But I guess you do like Apocalypse Now...

lovethesmellofnapalm · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:36 pm

lovethesmellofnapalm wrote:

The Axman wrote:

Apocalypse Now.
The most preeeeetentious pile of gubbins in the Universe.

Preeeeetentious... moi?

A work of brilliance in my opinion. flawed but brilliant.the definitive Vietnam war film hasn,t been made yet but the first hour is possibly my favourite hour of mainstream cinema ever

aye

lovethesmellofnapalm · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:40 pm

but American Beauty- sheet
and not overly keen on Usual Suspects either
too difficult i s'pose

William the White · **Posted:** Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:55 pm

lovethesmellofnapalm wrote:

but American Beauty- sheet
and not overly keen on Usual Suspects either
too difficult i s'pose

Out of interest - perhaps only mine - why do you dislike American Beauty so much?

And, just cos I wonder if it's a writer thing - this is something that interests me - did you ever get on with Six Feet Under? Since this has probably secured the future of Alan Ball's grandchildren, never mind him and his kids...

I find myself chasing writers I like, particularly for the stage... but also for TV and Film (and, indeed, radio (where anything by Tina Pepler will make me stay in to catch or catch up)... And, indeed, books (though i recognise that this is more common)...

And I avoid others I haven't got on with... Maybe Ball's work doesn't touch your button. It's certainly a little more domestic than Apocalypse Now. Me? I really like both, flaws n all...

Harry Genshaw · **Posted:** Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:06 am

I was shocked to hear on this thread that some folk dont like Pulp Fiction but to hear someone call American Beauty 5hite :shock:

My flabber is well and truly gasted. There'll be someone on here in a minute saying they didn't like the Reader next.

Which talking of Kate Winslet brings me onto 'Revolutionary Road'. Utterly ghastly.

lovethesmellofnapalm · **Posted:** Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:30 am

at the end of the day i just dont like/didn't enjoy Ameican Beauty.
can't really articulate it but i suppose as an indictment of the American Dream it just seemed ... lazy.
the Kevin Spacey guy (Lester?) has a bit of a mid life crisis so what does he do- lust after a younger bird, pump iron and do drugs while all the time living in the same posh house so his actual physical environment doesn't change in the film at all. hardly what i'd call "dropping out" or even "re-discovering oneself"
can't remember much else about it really - other than feeling it was just a bit too comfortable a ticking off for American materialism

Annette Bening is hot though

Annoyed Grunt · **Posted:** Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:29 am

Hated American Beauty when I first saw it, watched it again and thought it was good. Same goes for The Football Factory.

Hoboh · **Posted:** Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:14 am

Hate; Gone with the wind, too long too boring.

Rate; Dirty Harry, original Terminator movie, Green berets, any Indiana Jones movie (well except the last one that was a bit stupid) Gladiator, Ben Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, The hill, Dambusters, Jungle book, Shrek movies, Peter Pan, chitty chitty bang bang, sound of music and of course the top film of all

Mary Popins

Bruce Rioja · **Posted:** Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:28 am

I once heard someone call A Bridge Too Far, an Hour Too Long, which struck me as being particularly ignorant, although I believe that they Americanised the film (the guy that walked onto the bridge was British, not American, but they wanted an American hero apparently) which is even more ignorant.

General Mannerheim · **Posted:** Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:31 am

apart from Shrek movies, (part 1 aside) ive not seen a film mentioned in this thread that i dont like...

bobo the clown · **Posted:** Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:57 pm

Hoboh wrote:

Rate; any Indiana Jones movie (well except the last one that was a bit stupid)

I love the concept that; ergo, the others are all highly realistic.

I do enjoy them greatly though, as pieces of pure entertainment.

Worthy4England · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:21 pm

William the White wrote:

lovethesmellofnapalm wrote:

but American Beauty- sheet
and not overly keen on Usual Suspects either
too difficult i s'pose

Out of interest - perhaps only mine - why do you dislike American Beauty so much?

And, just cos I wonder if it's a writer thing - this is something that interests me - did you ever get on with Six Feet Under? Since this has probably secured the future of Alan Ball's grandchildren, never mind him and his kids...

I find myself chasing writers I like, particularly for the stage... but also for TV and Film (and, indeed, radio (where anything by Tina Pepler will make me stay in to catch or catch up)... And, indeed, books (though i recognise that this is more common)...

And I avoid others I haven't got on with... Maybe Ball's work doesn't touch your button. It's certainly a little more domestic than Apocalypse Now. Me? I really like both, flaws n all...

I know the question was directed at ILTSON, but, do you generally think the "writer" or the original work has very much to do with the production of the thing, especially with films (they might be a bit closer to other types of production - stage etc.)

As a ferinstance, the Bourne films already mentioned on here, a million miles away from the books, not even close. If I watch them in the context I had from reading the book, I declare them "a bag o shite". If I pretend I've never read the books, then as a film that passes an hour and a half, I've probably seen a lot worse.

So I wouldn't discount a film because I disliked the author nor necessarily recommend a film, because I liked the author.

That said, I'm not holding out much hope that the flim of "Jordan, A Whole New World" will be a must see...

boltonboris · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:36 pm

See, I've never read the Bourne books. And I think the films are ace

Worthy4England · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:42 pm

boltonboris wrote:

See, I've never read the Bourne books. And I think the films are ace

For me, they're so far removed from the books, you might not actually like the books. :-)

I think most of the Ludlum books are excellent. (The ones written by him - most of the newer ones aren't on the grounds of him being dead)

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