It is currently Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:46 am


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:51 pm 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm

Posts: 19420

Shit, clueless or an outright cheat?

How did he give that as a deliberate handball?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:27 pm 
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 23, 2011 9:25 am

Posts: 6180

Location: Bolton

I'd go for shit.

_________________
“BADGUY: Im not saye nothinge !Im waent a Loyer! My shose is fule of melk"
DETETCIVE: "Yor pokcets is fule of Crimes!”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:38 am 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:51 am

Posts: 12306

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Shit, clueless or an outright cheat?

How did he give that as a deliberate handball?


We'll get you a drum.

_________________
There can be no true beauty without decay


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:39 am 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm

Posts: 13259

Location: Ellenbrook

I can't believe it took 93 minutes for somebody at Sky to say last nights game was one of those "Famous nights at Anfield" Bleurgh...

Penalty was a shite decision. Dowd is giving it all this visual hands in the air bollocks. The arm it hit was right up against Richards' face!

He reckons he saw a penalty incident there, but not when Adam booted Dzeko in the calf about 3ft away from the ball!!

_________________
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"

http://www.twitter.com/Neilturner83
http://www.worsleytownfc.co.uk
http://www.twitter.com/worsleytownfc


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:45 am 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm

Posts: 19420

boltonboris wrote:
I can't believe it took 93 minutes for somebody at Sky to say last nights game was one of those "Famous nights at Anfield" Bleurgh...

Penalty was a shite decision. Dowd is giving it all this visual hands in the air bollocks. The arm it hit was right up against Richards' face!

He reckons he saw a penalty incident there, but not when Adam booted Dzeko in the calf about 3ft away from the ball!!


Whats more worrying was that it was obvious to me in real time it had hit Richards boot and flicked up to his hand. Even if it had hit his hand direct, I struggle to see how a block at point blank range can be deliberate?

The Liverpool love in of the commentators annoyed me too.

City were poor and Liverpool deserved it, but hey when you don't get a blatant penalty and have one awarded against you that is blatantly wrong, then well, not much point turning up is there?

Anyways, c'mon Cardiff!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:52 am 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm

Posts: 13259

Location: Ellenbrook

Exactly. thought at the time it was harsh, but his arms did look high. But the ref was practically on top of it.

Mancini will be rightly pissed off

_________________
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"

http://www.twitter.com/Neilturner83
http://www.worsleytownfc.co.uk
http://www.twitter.com/worsleytownfc


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:25 am 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:01 am

Posts: 27303

Location: In my armchair

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Anyways, c'mon Cardiff!



I agree with BWFCi! :pissed:

_________________
664 - the neighbour of the beast....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:11 pm 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:49 am

Posts: 12358

Location: N Wales, but close enough to Chester I can pretend I'm in England

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:

Anyways, c'mon Cardiff!
I agree with BWFCi! :pissed:
Horrible, regrettably, so do I.

Nothing personal BWFC_i, I'd rather watch those Welsh tossers win something than Liverpool.

_________________
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.

"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:14 pm 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:01 am

Posts: 27303

Location: In my armchair

bobo the clown wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:

Anyways, c'mon Cardiff!
I agree with BWFCi! :pissed:
Horrible, regrettably, so do I.

Nothing personal BWFC_i, I'd rather watch those Welsh tossers win something than Liverpool.



Bobo Bish BOTH agreeing with BWFCi!! I hear music...

ebony and ivory, live together in perfect harmony!!

and

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

let's take a moment to celebrate this special moment! :oyea:

_________________
664 - the neighbour of the beast....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:22 pm 
Dedicated

Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:42 pm

Posts: 1031

The fault here lies with the regulations. It used to be absolutely clear what handball entailed but the rules have been tweaked over the years and the unfortunate word 'intent' has crept into it. How the fcuk can a referee know what is going on in a player's mind... he can't, he's not a fecking mind reader.
The regulations need rewriting to remove all subjective opinions and replace them with objective statements.

Having said that, I'll raise a glass to the mash-up-love-in that is insaneBoboBishBorg :pissed:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:16 pm 
Immortal

Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 8:19 am

Posts: 10943

Location: Bolton

thebish wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:

Anyways, c'mon Cardiff!
I agree with BWFCi! :pissed:
Horrible, regrettably, so do I.

Nothing personal BWFC_i, I'd rather watch those Welsh tossers win something than Liverpool.



Bobo Bish BOTH agreeing with BWFCi!! I hear music...

ebony and ivory, live together in perfect harmony!!

and

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

let's take a moment to celebrate this special moment! :oyea:


I suppose I'll have to make up the fab four by agreeing :mrgreen: One last gig :)

_________________
"We're the only show in town. Government's a fxck up, half the Civil Service is out-to-lunch. The Foreign Office is as much use as a wet dream, the country's stony-broke and the bankers are taking our money and giving us the finger."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:25 pm 
Passionate
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:34 am

Posts: 2876

Location: The blackest of pools

Am I the only one who can understand why Dowd gave it? It's harsh on Richards, and an unlucky one to concede, but what Dowd has seen is the ball dropping to Agger, him shooting, and Richard's raised hands stopping the ball on the path to the goal. I'd have been more surprised had it not been given, put it that way.

_________________
I was saying Boo-urns.

https://twitter.com/#!/JamoCaino


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:50 pm 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm

Posts: 19420

jimbo wrote:
Am I the only one who can understand why Dowd gave it? It's harsh on Richards, and an unlucky one to concede, but what Dowd has seen is the ball dropping to Agger, him shooting, and Richard's raised hands stopping the ball on the path to the goal. I'd have been more surprised had it not been given, put it that way.


His hand was not raised it was covering his face. Dowd motioned 5 times that his hands were above his head. Probably needs a trip to specsavers...

It was a block that can have been no more than 5 yards from where Agger struck the ball. It clearly hit his foot first, I saw that clear as day first time.

I've seen players get away with punching the damn thing in the penalty area. To say it was "harsh" is an understatement.

Downright ridiculous IMO.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:54 pm 
Dedicated

Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:42 pm

Posts: 1031

You see it's all in the interpretation of handling it with intent. I think Dowd was saying he "saved it" not "he raised his hands". But as I said before, the rules should be made more straightforward, and not open to 'interpretation'.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:11 pm 
Passionate
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:34 am

Posts: 2876

Location: The blackest of pools

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Am I the only one who can understand why Dowd gave it? It's harsh on Richards, and an unlucky one to concede, but what Dowd has seen is the ball dropping to Agger, him shooting, and Richard's raised hands stopping the ball on the path to the goal. I'd have been more surprised had it not been given, put it that way.


His hand was not raised it was covering his face. Dowd motioned 5 times that his hands were above his head. Probably needs a trip to specsavers...

It was a block that can have been no more than 5 yards from where Agger struck the ball. It clearly hit his foot first, I saw that clear as day first time.

I've seen players get away with punching the damn thing in the penalty area. To say it was "harsh" is an understatement.

Downright ridiculous IMO.


I agree with most of that, it's just our interpretation of things that differ. There's nothing Richards could have done differently really, you can't slide to block something like that without arms going in the air, and he's unlucky that the ball hit them.

Where I disagree is with how clearly the ball hit his foot initially - I didn't see it at the time, and only did on the replay. If I didn't, I can't really have a go at Dowd for being unable to. As I said, I think Dowd has seen a shot heading towards goal, stopped by Richards' raised arm. Whether it deliberately hits the arm or not in that situation I think that should be a penalty. It's all about interpretation of those events though. Grey areas indeed, and whichever way Dowd reacted he'd have been subject to criticism.

As for the Adam foul? Well, that was a stonewaller.

_________________
I was saying Boo-urns.

https://twitter.com/#!/JamoCaino


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:33 pm 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm

Posts: 13259

Location: Ellenbrook

So do you think Dowd wasn;t paying attention? I knew it'd hit his foot first in 'real time' and Dowd was literally yards away from the incident

_________________
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"

http://www.twitter.com/Neilturner83
http://www.worsleytownfc.co.uk
http://www.twitter.com/worsleytownfc


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phil Dowd
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:15 pm 
Immortal
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm

Posts: 19243

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:

Anyways, c'mon Cardiff!
I agree with BWFCi! :pissed:
Horrible, regrettably, so do I.

Nothing personal BWFC_i, I'd rather watch those Welsh tossers win something than Liverpool.



Bobo Bish BOTH agreeing with BWFCi!! I hear music...

ebony and ivory, live together in perfect harmony!!

and

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

let's take a moment to celebrate this special moment! :oyea:


I suppose I'll have to make up the fab four by agreeing :mrgreen: One last gig :)


Wouldn't that errr, y'know, make you <cough>, Scousers?

I will not be hoping those Welsh tossers win.

feck 'em.

I'll be hoping it goes to sudden death penalties and no-one misses ever.

That said, I could see marginally more comic value in Liverpool winning, should United feck up on all fronts.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 

It is currently Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:46 am

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group