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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:52 pm 
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Brilliant way to look at it!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:00 pm 
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Asked the wife:

She reckons Morrisons is generally the best bet but goes to Asda some weeks depending wht else she's doing and the bill fluctuates when she gets cleaning stuff, washing powder etc. She also gets potatoes off the market and some stuff from M&S. We get bread and milk locally every couple of days as needed. On just food alone she reckons for two of us an average is about £85-£95 per week including a meat joint at weekends.

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We've gone back to old school shopping, meat from the local butchers, local fruit and veg from the greengrocer and the rest of the bits from Aldi (which has been sneakily raising their prices for the past 12 months) or Morrisons.

Better quality meat, better veg, better meals and I reckon for around 55 quid for 2 adults and an eleven year old who eats like a mouse. We don't do 'Ding' food or processed shite.

I challenge you to try the 'Buy local' challenge and stay away from the supermarkets. If you plan your meals out for the week, it saves a fortune.

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Free range.. does it taste much better?

If not, then :conf:?


Most poisons don't taste of anything.

I take it I don't need to add much more, other than I don't give a f*ck about the chickens, but I do give a f*ck about me. And what I eat becomes me.

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Free range.. does it taste much better?

If not, then :conf:?


Most poisons don't taste of anything.

I take it I don't need to add much more, other than I don't give a f*ck about the chickens, but I do give a f*ck about me. And what I eat becomes me.


It's the cruelty to animals bit that repels me most. And I don't trust any food that comes from torturing sentient beings. An animal kept in trauma isn't an animal allowed to develop as was intended.

Does it taste different? In the case of chicken, without a shadow of a doubt. In the case of salmon - organic as opposed to farmed - I reckon so but less clear. In the case of eggs - I was shocked to see (on here) the amount of fraud going on so I don't know if it's possible to make a judgement with security. I so rarely eat red or cured meat that I can't say anything.

When I used to eat offal - and loved it - I can say, without doubt, that the liver/spleen/tongue/heart hoiked out of a sheep or goat that day (the stuff I ate in Sudan, sometimes minutes after slaughter) is sublime compared to anything available here.


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Too much of our food is shit in this country. I remeber a SA chef pointing out some heavily bruised chicken to me once and saying how it was illegal to sell it for human consuption over there.

And for some reason people over here have been duped into believing that somehow standing up for their right to eat shit food is in someway noble. I don't know under those circumstances how you can possibly reason with that unthink, but what I do know is that starting out from a position of animal welfare is definitely not going to do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:59 am 
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Does it taste different? In the case of chicken, without a shadow of a doubt. In the case of salmon - organic as opposed to farmed - I reckon so but less clear. In the case of eggs - I was shocked to see (on here) the amount of fraud going on so I don't know if it's possible to make a judgement with security.


it is possible to make such a judgement with security. I fished an egg out of my chicken coop this very morning - it isn't intensively farmed - I boiled it and it tasted 1357 times better than the horrid iceland bulk-buy caged-hen boiled egg that my M-i-L dared to offer me last easter....

some of that is simply down to freshness, BUT - when I have a glut of eggs - then the backlog - sometimes a couple of weeks old - STILL taste 1328 times as good.

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Lord Kangana wrote:
Too much of our food is shit in this country. I remeber a SA chef pointing out some heavily bruised chicken to me once and saying how it was illegal to sell it for human consuption over there.

And for some reason people over here have been duped into believing that somehow standing up for their right to eat shit food is in someway noble. I don't know under those circumstances how you can possibly reason with that unthink, but what I do know is that starting out from a position of animal welfare is definitely not going to do it.



not going to do what? :conf:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:21 am 
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I find the taste of free range egg yolks to be nearer to the lovely deep taste of a duck egg than the crap, pale yellow efforts produced in barbaric conditions by battery hens, and even if they didn't, I'd still buy them anyway just so I'd know that my money wasn't supporting an industry that should've been outlawed years ago.
I still judder to believe that such a stink was kicked up over fox hunting (in terms of how few it effects) whilst this still goes on.

Likewise, I buy corn-fed free range chicken for identical reasons.

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Bruce Rioja wrote:
I find the taste of free range egg yolks to be nearer to the lovely deep taste of a duck egg than the crap, pale yellow efforts produced in barbaric conditions by battery hens, and even if they didn't, I'd still buy them anyway just so I'd know that my money wasn't supporting an industry that should've been outlawed years ago.



GG boiled me a fresh duck egg recently - I had never had a boiled duck-egg before - it was utterly fantastic! 8)

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I find the taste of free range egg yolks to be nearer to the lovely deep taste of a duck egg than the crap, pale yellow efforts produced in barbaric conditions by battery hens, and even if they didn't, I'd still buy them anyway just so I'd know that my money wasn't supporting an industry that should've been outlawed years ago.



GG boiled me a fresh duck egg recently - I had never had a boiled duck-egg before - it was utterly fantastic! 8)


Boiled duck egg with a little salt & pepper and a fresh baguette - oh man! 8)

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Lord Kangana wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Free range.. does it taste much better?

If not, then :conf:?


Most poisons don't taste of anything.

I take it I don't need to add much more, other than I don't give a f*ck about the chickens, but I do give a f*ck about me. And what I eat becomes me.


Do non-free range chickens contain poison?

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Lord Kangana wrote:
Too much of our food is shit in this country. I remeber a SA chef pointing out some heavily bruised chicken to me once and saying how it was illegal to sell it for human consuption over there.

And for some reason people over here have been duped into believing that somehow standing up for their right to eat shit food is in someway noble. I don't know under those circumstances how you can possibly reason with that unthink, but what I do know is that starting out from a position of animal welfare is definitely not going to do it.



not going to do what? :conf:


Persuade people of the need for animal welfare. Appeal to their selfishness, it is the endthat you seek not the means.

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Free range.. does it taste much better?

If not, then :conf:?


Most poisons don't taste of anything.

I take it I don't need to add much more, other than I don't give a f*ck about the chickens, but I do give a f*ck about me. And what I eat becomes me.


Do non-free range chickens contain poison?


In short, yes.

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Lord Kangana wrote:
Too much of our food is shit in this country. I remeber a SA chef pointing out some heavily bruised chicken to me once and saying how it was illegal to sell it for human consuption over there.

And for some reason people over here have been duped into believing that somehow standing up for their right to eat shit food is in someway noble. I don't know under those circumstances how you can possibly reason with that unthink, but what I do know is that starting out from a position of animal welfare is definitely not going to do it.



not going to do what? :conf:


Persuade people of the need for animal welfare. Appeal to their selfishness, it is the endthat you seek not the means.


ahh - I'm still failing to see that in your previous post! 8)

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Keep looking 'til you find it then.

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Keep looking 'til you find it then.


I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant...

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We know what we know. We don't know what we don't know. There are known knowns, and known unknowns. And other stuff.

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Around £70 a week in Tesco for two adults.

Unfortunately we can never be bothered to do it, so it's easy for us to whizz around Tesco where we know where everything is.

We have also used our clubcard points to good advantage and will be doing so once the little one arrives.

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