Just seems bizarre that an athlete at 24 can get something like this (and not me sat on my arse behind a desk all day), but him being that will hopefully aid his recovery.

Suspect we should also be thankful that this was first detected Thursday when presumably he didn't train, whereas if it was a Saturday there's a higher chance he'd have played football with it which can't have been good.

As for the team, well there's an easy "Do it for Gary" message for tomorrow night, but long term it just got harder.

oh dear god

malcd1 wrote:

FD wrote: It's likely to be a minimum of 6 months to be honest. Basically he has to take blood thinning medicine, which means any knock he gets on the field would be dangerous and he'd be at a high risk of internal bleeding. The "average" course is apparently 6 months, and he comes out of hospital today, I can't see him walking straight back into the premiership after a six month course where he can't do anything where he'd risk "getting a knock". This is bad news for us, but it's horrible news for Gary, he had a real chance of going to the World Cup, and now...well, obviously not. I'm not sure you can say it will be at least 6 months. There are numerous types of blood clot some of which are life threatening and some less so. From the report on BWFC website the clot has been dissolved and he is now out of hospital. We can pretty much discount any Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT) or else he would still be in hospital. You are correct though that a blood thinning medicine (Warfarin) is normally given but there is no set time limit for this. People with a high risk of DVT or had major heart surgery may be on Warfarin for the rest of their lives. If Cahill (A really big IF) is prescribed Warfarin then he could be on it for as little as 5 days or not at all. As you have said FD, blood thinning tablets can result in internal bleeding if you get a knock or difficulties in clotting if you cut yourself. So unless we get to speak to the club doctor then anything else is pure speculation and guesswork.

Why can't you discount a DVT? Once he's been in hospital and he's been given heparin to dissolve the clot he'd be free to go, with warfarin for 3-6 months. He'd only still be in hospital had it emobolised to the lung.

DVT is possibly the most likely in fact considering the 2 day history of increasing pain and swelling. Other arterial clots would more likely result in acute limb ischaemia, where no blood gets to the limb, effectively starving it.

But, as you say, we have no way of knowing what it was.

Puskas wrote:

Tombwfc wrote: Meh, feck it. If it means taking risks, I'd rather just tell him to go home and come back for pre-season training. Maybe have him out on scouting missions/doing whatever Sean Davis and Joey O are doing with their lives. There's no point risking his career (and, cynically, our investment) by trying to rush him back. Gutted for him though. Disaster for us too, probably need to send for Mark Connolly. Should still stay up though, if we can't out-point two of the bottom ten then there's something wrong. Indeed - and whilst Cahill is a superb player, I don't see that two from O'Brien (A), Shittu and Knight is any worse that the defences of either Wolves or Burnley. Let's face it, Clarke Carlisle is hardly Franz Flippin Beckenbauer, is he? We have, after all, stayed up in the past with a short-arsed left-back filling in as a central defender. This is a rather more positive situation, as regards cover.

I can't see us staying up! Please send some of your optimism down here. To me Shittu is a desperately poor defender at Championship level, AOB is not Premiership standard, and whilst Coyle has somehow got Knight looking like an outstanding CH, he has been known for being talented but error prone all through his career, I can't help thinking that Coyle cannot get that out of him. Steinsson might be the best bet at CH, with Knight, but I don't like the idea of Ricketts and Robinson as long term full backs. Clark Carlisle or Berra from Wolves are streets ahead of anything we now have, except the new improved Knight.

We have some tough games, which are likely to be certain defeats, but also games like Blackburn(a), Wigan(a), Sunderland(a), Stoke(a) that are tough but we need to get something from them. In these games our defence will come under a lot of pressure. I can't see us standing up to that pressure without Cahill.

Feel very sorry for GC.... But please stop posting s hit saying we won't stay up. AOB to step up. The boy knows how to play, not the quickest, not the most gifted, but he always gives his all for the cause.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL STAY UP!!

Sickener this one, real nightmare for the lad. Hope he overcomes it and returns to football at his best.

As for our season its a blow - and does make you wonder if there is something against us this season, particularly given its come to light less than a week after transfer deadline day. On the positive - Owen Coyle seems to have the lads somewhat more organised at the back, and there are still teams in this league with some pretty poor quality defences. I'd like to think a combination of Knight plus AOB/Shittu should be enough, perhaps with Robinson playing a prominent role as he seems to me to be the only one who can lead a line back there.

Talk about big blows though.

Well this is about the worst news possible for both club and player. Time for Knight to prove he was worth the money. I really think he has been showing glimpses of the kind of class defender he has the potential to be, although Megson could not coax it out of him for whatever reason.

Is there any word on Steinsson and when he'll be back?

It's going to be a major blow to any team to lost the person who stops the opposition scoring and can then go to the other end of the pitch and score.

When it's us, it's critical. I still think that we have good enough players to stay up, but god damn it's going to be hard!

he was our top scorer after all....

My heart goes out to Cahill, what a thing to happen to a young lad in his prime. I wish him all the best for the future.

But Bolton just have to breath in and get on without him, he will be missed no doubt but if the rest of the squad up their tempo and get close to what they are capable of playing we will be OK. This is a real test for Coyle now, has he got the wherewithall to motivate the team out of this hole? We will soon find out.

cut it off, then he'll be back in a fortnight.

Looking on the bright side, if there is one, this is an opportunity for someone to step up, get regular games and make a name for themselves. I would have thought the likes of Basham etc would relish the chance. It may turn out OK.

Wandering Willy wrote:

Looking on the bright side, if there is one, this is an opportunity for someone to step up, get regular games and make a name for themselves. I would have thought the likes of Basham etc would relish the chance. It may turn out OK.

I'd like to look on the bright side. Have another try...

bettyrasta wrote:

Wandering Willy wrote: Looking on the bright side, if there is one, this is an opportunity for someone to step up, get regular games and make a name for themselves. I would have thought the likes of Basham etc would relish the chance. It may turn out OK. I'd like to look on the bright side. Have another try...

With that eyeball you should be able to look on any side.

Mirror report that the club are seeking a second opinion on how to get him fit.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Bolton-to-seek-second-opinion-on-Gary-Cahill-blood-clot-in-bid-to-save-England-defender-s-World-Cup-dream-article318423.html

jaffka wrote:

Mirror report that the club are seeking a second opinion on how to get him fit. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Bolton-to-seek-second-opinion-on-Gary-Cahill-blood-clot-in-bid-to-save-England-defender-s-World-Cup-dream-article318423.html

OC being quoted on some websites that he has never said he would be out for the season and still hopes he can make Capello's World Cup squad.

Wishful thinking perhaps but maybe a glimmer of hope that it may not be the 6 months being banded around.