I read the thread properly. I'd explain it to you, but fear it would be wasted effort.
Allardyce went and signed class players - they were ours, no one elses, so he could plan to build around them, knowing they'd be here more than 3 months. Coyle hasn't - he's borrowed some (and borrowed plenty who weren't class or didn't show much of it whilst they were with us). Can't plan around them as he/we never know if they're going to come back for a second go. So far none have returned as far as I can recall?
Maybe if he added some class at the expense of mediocre volume signings, we might get somewhere.
Alongside that he's signed an abundance of mediocrity - which are our assets.
Clearly you didn't read the thread properly otherwise you wouldn't have been waffling on about how neither Sturridge or Wilshere were part of our squad in the Championship when the OP was referring specifically to the Premier League.
Coyle has made yet more mediocre signings, Andrews and Mears, to go with the others like Pratley, Ngog and Reo-Coker, who cost us our Premier League place last year.
Coyle is being allowed to build a mediocre Championship side and spend our scarce money on journeymen players.
Clearly on about specifically the Premier League.
There for all to see. How stupid of me.
Glad you sorted that out.
That's not the part of the post which we were discussing though is it? I wouldn't mind but i've already re-quoted it. Twice.
Coyle is building a team to win promotion, just like Allardyce did. Which 'class' players did Allardyce sign when we were in the Championship who had any real impact in the Premier League? Ricketts? Frandsen? Most of the 'class' players were added after we won promotion and even then, some of them had no resale value because we signed them towards the end of their careers.
To say that Coyle doesn't understand that we need 'class' in the Premier League is nonsense. Allardyce had the money to bring in the likes of Okocha, Djorkaeff and Anelka. Coyle has had to borrow players like Wilshere and Sturridge.
What are you on about at all? In one post you're sarcastically suggesting I read the thread and in this one you're saying we're talking about a part of a post - maybe it'd be easier if you made your mind up.
The way I see it is that the OP discussed:
1) Coyle made some mediocre signings last season which he's added to with Andrews and Mears (I think he meant Mills but that's by the by)
2) Coyle is building a mediocre Championship side and buying journeymen players
3) What's happened to the scouting set-up that bought decent players
4) Coyle only bought Alonso from overseas (incorrect but that's what the guy said)
5) Sam knew class, Coyle doesn't
6) We'll be a yo-yo team (I assume if this continues)
You responded to point 2) by suggesting we'd have one of the best Championship sides (amongst other things) - whilst three posts (?) later telling me we were talking about the Prem only.
You responded to points 5) and 6) by asking what about Wilshere and Sturridge, to which I pointed out they're not in our squad.
Which bit do you want to discuss?
Coyle is building a team to win promotion, but it's not the same scenario as Allardyce, as he inherited a team that didn't actually require promotion. It was already in the Prem and I think the point that was being made, was that with a limited budget, the players he's brought in don't cut it in the Prem, which is why we lost our Prem status. Last season - one in which we didn't require promotion, he spent £7.5m on strikers. For whatever reason, one didn't get much of a game, the other hardly set the world alight, yet we're told he's had no money.
Allardyce's expenditure on players (both capital for transfer outlay and wages) was generally pretty good by Prem standards as a % of Revenue.
Megson's was nowhere near as good - salaries jumped up to considerable levels in relation to Revenue and he had unprecidented levels of transfer funds.
Coyle is redressing this IMO, rather than anything Allardyce did. But the point still stands, if he'd followed a different line, maybe buying one or two class players (comparitively), rather than lots of mediocre ones then we might not have gone down.