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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:39 pm 
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...got a text from my boss (a rangers fan) and a few hibs and st johnstone fans saying ' hope the whites do it and stay up, hate QPR' etc etc, so the support seems to be widespread over the nation!

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:07 am 
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Any genuine football supporters would want us to stay up over QPR.

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Neutrals wanting fecking West Ham to stay up. I prefer being disliked, we're miles better at it!

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 Post subject: Re: just passing on a message from the SPL supporters...
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:08 am 
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...got a text from my boss (a rangers fan) and a few hibs and st johnstone fans saying ' hope the whites do it and stay up, hate QPR' etc etc, so the support seems to be widespread over the nation!

COYWM!


Hate to burst a bubble, but that support might have something to do with the fact that we have a very close affiliation to Celtic - what with Shepherds Bush being a very strong Irish Catholic area.

However, you do have a point - most teams fans want you to stay up and not us. It is easy to just put it down to the north-west football bias (you all think it's your game up there - and London clubs should just feck off and play ruggers). Or even a anti-London thing - but I won't insult your intelligence.

Personally, I put it down to ignorance. The vast majority of people I talk to about QPR know absolutely nothing of the roots of the club and its fans - and have us down as some offshoot of the usual West London-Chelscum-Foolham axis.

This could not be further from the truth. QPR is the only genuine working class football club - certainly in West London, probably in the whole capital - it was founded out of a boys club run by a catholic church in the most rundown area of the city (everyone thinks East London when they think poverty, but they could not be further from the truth - North West london was far tougher...at least the Eastenders had the docks, jobs etc..).

We were not wanted from the getgo. We have the record for the most home venues in our history (15 - soon to be 16) as we were bandied from pillar to post...eventually being allowed to build our current home on a rubbish dump. We were even denied access to the football league in favour of Spurs, in spite finishing above them in the Southern League for a number of years.

In the 1970s, we almost won the title against the big clubs by playing a form of football that the Dutch would nick from us - we went down soon after.

In the 80s, the fans forced plans to merge with Fulham to be thrown out by disrupting a number of matches and some very forceful campaigning. Fulham hold one rally - and got all the credit. We did the same in the 90s when MK Dons loomed large.

We saved our own club when nobody cared, with bucket collections and fans taking over control of the boardroom, as we lurched from crisis to crisis. When our previous incumbents Ecclestone and Briatore came in, we hated them, and forced them out.

The new guys have money, but they are only allowed to stay in charge because they believe in the local community (Fernandes was bought up 200 yards from the ground). We have been shortlisted for a global award for our community work (along with NY Yankees, Man Utd).

Essentially, we play football, we do things our own way, we appreciate how other teams do things and we show them the utmost respect. But ultimately we are a traditional football club with a very unique background. And nothing like our posh neighbours.

All that said. Good luck on Sunday, genuinely. What will be, will be. We've been relegated enough not to be too bothered about it. In all honesty, we had the same attendances in League One as we did in the top flight anyway (and a hell of a lot of fun..).

Anyway, whatever happens we can both agree. Whoever finishes in the bottom three after 38 games deserves to be relegated.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:28 am 
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flatfoot wrote:
perthwhite wrote:
...got a text from my boss (a rangers fan) and a few hibs and st johnstone fans saying ' hope the whites do it and stay up, hate QPR' etc etc, so the support seems to be widespread over the nation!

COYWM!


Hate to burst a bubble, but that support might have something to do with the fact that we have a very close affiliation to Celtic - what with Shepherds Bush being a very strong Irish Catholic area.

However, you do have a point - most teams fans want you to stay up and not us. It is easy to just put it down to the north-west football bias (you all think it's your game up there - and London clubs should just feck off and play ruggers). Or even a anti-London thing - but I won't insult your intelligence.

Personally, I put it down to ignorance. The vast majority of people I talk to about QPR know absolutely nothing of the roots of the club and its fans - and have us down as some offshoot of the usual West London-Chelscum-Foolham axis.

This could not be further from the truth. QPR is the only genuine working class football club - certainly in West London, probably in the whole capital - it was founded out of a boys club run by a catholic church in the most rundown area of the city (everyone thinks East London when they think poverty, but they could not be further from the truth - North West london was far tougher...at least the Eastenders had the docks, jobs etc..).

We were not wanted from the getgo. We have the record for the most home venues in our history (15 - soon to be 16) as we were bandied from pillar to post...eventually being allowed to build our current home on a rubbish dump. We were even denied access to the football league in favour of Spurs, in spite finishing above them in the Southern League for a number of years.

In the 1970s, we almost won the title against the big clubs by playing a form of football that the Dutch would nick from us - we went down soon after.

In the 80s, the fans forced plans to merge with Fulham to be thrown out by disrupting a number of matches and some very forceful campaigning. Fulham hold one rally - and got all the credit. We did the same in the 90s when MK Dons loomed large.

We saved our own club when nobody cared, with bucket collections and fans taking over control of the boardroom, as we lurched from crisis to crisis. When our previous incumbents Ecclestone and Briatore came in, we hated them, and forced them out.

The new guys have money, but they are only allowed to stay in charge because they believe in the local community (Fernandes was bought up 200 yards from the ground). We have been shortlisted for a global award for our community work (along with NY Yankees, Man Utd).

Essentially, we play football, we do things our own way, we appreciate how other teams do things and we show them the utmost respect. But ultimately we are a traditional football club with a very unique background. And nothing like our posh neighbours.

All that said. Good luck on Sunday, genuinely. What will be, will be. We've been relegated enough not to be too bothered about it. In all honesty, we had the same attendances in League One as we did in the top flight anyway (and a hell of a lot of fun..).

Anyway, whatever happens we can both agree. Whoever finishes in the bottom three after 38 games deserves to be relegated.


Welcome to the board. Interesting post. Doubt you'll win any over on an eve of a match such as this.

I've got a north-west football bias because its easier to travel to those teams.

Hopefully we'll stay up and relegate you in the process. I have nothing against QPR but thats just the way it goes.

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:40 am 
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flatfoot wrote:

Hate to burst a bubble, but that support might have something to do with the fact that we have a very close affiliation to Celtic - what with Shepherds Bush being a very strong Irish Catholic area.

Is full of East Europeans whenever I've been there. Your Bucharest Supporters Club will be packed to the rafters then come Sunday, I imagine. The only thing you've got in common with Celtic is that you play in hoops. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: just passing on a message from the SPL supporters...
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:42 am 
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Bruce Rioja wrote:
flatfoot wrote:

Hate to burst a bubble, but that support might have something to do with the fact that we have a very close affiliation to Celtic - what with Shepherds Bush being a very strong Irish Catholic area.

Is full of East Europeans whenever I've been there. Your Bucharest Supporters Club will be packed to the rafters then come Sunday, I imagine. The only thing you've got in common with Celtic is that you play in hoops. ;)


There's a Polish hub in Ravenscourt Park - a mile away - which affords us some wonderful restaurants, a cheap and committed workforce. Celtic have had a number of pre-seasons here because of the Irish connection. There are also mosques, baptists churches, cuisine from over 70 countries in Shepherd's Bush.

We embrace a multicultural cultural society in W12 - though I can take or leave the antipodeans...


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Bruce Rioja wrote:
flatfoot wrote:

Hate to burst a bubble, but that support might have something to do with the fact that we have a very close affiliation to Celtic - what with Shepherds Bush being a very strong Irish Catholic area.

Is full of East Europeans whenever I've been there. Your Bucharest Supporters Club will be packed to the rafters then come Sunday, I imagine. The only thing you've got in common with Celtic is that you play in hoops. ;)


There's a Polish hub in Ravenscourt Park - a mile away - which affords us some wonderful restaurants, a cheap and committed workforce. Celtic have had a number of pre-seasons here because of the Irish connection. There are also mosques, baptists churches, cuisine from over 70 countries in Shepherd's Bush.

We embrace a multicultural cultural society in W12 - though I can take or leave the antipodeans...


Don't you bite easily? ;)

To be fair, the first Polish restaurant I ever ate was in Shepherd's Bush. Am pretty sure it was called Patio. If you've never eaten there then you really should. Not sure that they'll be able to fry you up a Mars Bar though ;)

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 Post subject: Re: just passing on a message from the SPL supporters...
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:19 pm 
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Your history is irrelevant. Nobody wants you relegated because of it. Just like no-one wants us to stop up because of Lofthouse/being founder members of the league/being in the Prem for so long.

The majority of people want you to go down because you're more of a threat to their team than you are, you have money, we don't. Other people want you to go down for their own rivalries with you or because your catholic or whatever.

It doesn't make a difference who wants who to stay up anyway. All that matters is if we beat Stoke you'll go down.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:51 pm 
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edited a long and pithy response..
summarised thus..
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:39 pm 
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If you're a working class club who don't want to be tarred with the Chelsea brush, how come you more than doubled your season ticket prices and charged us (mainly working class) away fans £50 quid a ticket to sit in your shitty concrete away end?

You'll garner no sympathy here lad, be off with you!


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:48 pm 
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I've seen some crap on this forum but that's right up there


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Relentless09 wrote:
I've seen some crap on this forum but that's right up there



I hope you mean the QPR fan.


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Gary the Enfield wrote:
Relentless09 wrote:
I've seen some crap on this forum but that's right up there



I hope you mean the QPR fan.


Yes of course, he clearly has a screw lose or bad blood with us


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flatfoot wrote:
However, you do have a point - most teams fans want you to stay up and not us. It is easy to just put it down to the north-west football bias (you all think it's your game up there - and London clubs should just feck off and play ruggers). Or even a anti-London thing - but I won't insult your intelligence.


Are you taking the piss? It's you lot constantly banging on saying teams like Wigan don't deserve to be in the Premier League and should 'stick to rugby league' and media darlings like West Ham should have some divine right to always be in the top division.

As for your 'working class' club, that's a load of bollocks as well as you've officially charged more than Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal for a match ticket this season. Absolutely outrageous prices for a team that has just been promoted.

To other clubs, I may say 'may the best club stay up' but for you, I hope you get relegated and never come back.


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However, you do have a point - most teams fans want you to stay up and not us. It is easy to just put it down to the north-west football bias (you all think it's your game up there - and London clubs should just feck off and play ruggers). Or even a anti-London thing - but I won't insult your intelligence.


Are you taking the piss? It's you lot constantly banging on saying teams like Wigan don't deserve to be in the Premier League and should 'stick to rugby league' and media darlings like West Ham should have some divine right to always be in the top division.

As for your 'working class' club, that's a load of bollocks as well as you've officially charged more than Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal for a match ticket this season. Absolutely outrageous prices for a team that has just been promoted.

To other clubs, I may say 'may the best club stay up' but for you, I hope you get relegated and never come back.



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Well it's either us or you Mr QPR and whoever goes down deserves it because we've both been shite this season.
On a brighter note the only thing for me to be cheerful about is the fact I will probably save paying a scum fan a tenner even if we do go down because his lot ain't going to win the league :D

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