Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Well we could have put the assistant in charge I guess.It's too late for coyle out now.lets see what happens after the next 4 games but even so he's here till the summer.Can only get behind the team regardless.There's nothing else to do.
I honestly think I dislike Coyle just as much as Megson now, both are imho having the same effect of ruining BWFC only Coyle may take it one degree worse! If we drop Gartside should go too!
I totally understand that but what the feck we're stuck with this until the summer. I thought coyle tried to do things right yesterday except for playing pratley in a position were Tuncay might have been more effective. There' sno point harking back to Big Sam,he left as he knew he'd taken the club as far as he could and wanted a new challenge. Megson was a tosser who did a competent job,coyle is a nice guy doing the reverse. As for Gartside hasnt he been chairman through the most successful period in the clubs recent history? The appointments made since Allardyce all looked reasonable at the time including sammy Lee.Coyle looked like a stroke of genius for almost a year. I wouldnt be calling for gartside's head if we go down.We may as has been said before have to cut our cloth and at best accept that we are a yoyo sized team. It's all good and well pointing at Norwich and Swansea yes they have excellent managers and momentum but those managers will move on and the momentum will slow and eventually they will be were we are. It's the way it is for clubs of our size. Brief periods in the sun and longer periods in the shade.We've been spoiled by bucking the trend for a longer period than normal.
The type of players allardyce built our team on head for the USA and middle east these days. If he'd stayed he'd at best have achieved what he did at Blackburn. As it was the last 6 months he was here we were going backwards and less and less off his signings were working out.
I don't agree with the "clubs of our size" part, whilst we still have a wage bill that's top tier, lower to mid-table. We generally finish in a position commensurate with our spending on wages. Allardyce managed to buck the trend, Megson probably punched our spending "weight". Coyle is underperforming for a Club of our spending size.
I wouldn't get shut of Gartside either, even though I think Coyle should have gone at the end of November.
The clubs of our size point is not just about what we have/are spending but also what we should/can spend.We have been overspending hence the debt which has to be addressed. It may well be that coyle is trying to deal with this hence the substandard signings. We are also tied to carrying a number of big earners to the end of the season. We have debts becauese we have been living beyond our means,addressing that debt means a lower standard of living,not addressing it means ultimately a visit from the bailifs.
You are right that if coyle was to go it should have been november. We'll know in four games time whether we have a chance of staying up. Should we dispense with Coyle in the summer(which I'm sure most people here believe we should) it will be interesting to see who is interested in coming in. The remit they have will be the same as coyle's work to a budget and sign players we may be able to sell on. What's dario Gradi up to these days?
I have no doubt that OC has cut the wage bill. I similarly have no doubt that it's still bigger than at least three teams in the Prem. In terms of his substandard signings, he's had money. Not as much as Megson had, but still reasonable and comparable to quite a few of the other teams in the division, who I listed on a previous post. Presumably Eddie and Phil believed that investment to be sustainable. Part of our ability to punch above our weight is tv revenues, most of which we'll lose when we go down, so Eddie and whoever is Manager will need to make further cuts etc.
Which ever way I look at this, and agreed OC is making cuts (whereas Megson blatantly wasn't), Coyle STILL has more resources than more than 3 teams in the Division.
