Who can save us ??

CAPSLOCK · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:02 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:

The money issue is self evident, I'm surprised anyone is still in the "you reckon" arena.

All the more galling he doesn't rate any of his cash signings good enough to play, don't you think?

officer_dibble · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:14 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:

I'm completely cool with keeping Coyle. We will go down and I'll enjoy trips to more exotic stadiums in far flung towns where we actually have a chance of winning matches, as opposed to the last 4 years where at least 6 times a season, I'd sooner have just gifted teams the 3 points and avoided the matches.

Bring on the fizzy pop league - better football, far more equitable, a chance of some excitement, cheaper pies at away games.

My experience is it isn't that much cheaper
yeah its cheaper than chelsea, arsenal, but I think BWFC compare reasonably to a lot of championship clubs price wise!

its gonna be gash
but not as gash as the 6 months till may, we'll be relegated officially by feb so we can morbidly enjoy the last couple of months of the season

i'm just hoping we hit that 16(?) point low and dont break records

how fecking embarrassing

Worthy4England · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:18 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:

I'm completely cool with keeping Coyle. We will go down and I'll enjoy trips to more exotic stadiums in far flung towns where we actually have a chance of winning matches, as opposed to the last 4 years where at least 6 times a season, I'd sooner have just gifted teams the 3 points and avoided the matches.

Bring on the fizzy pop league - better football, far more equitable, a chance of some excitement, cheaper pies at away games.

You will enjoy it only if a) we have a chance of winning matches, b) it's exciting and c) there's better football. There's no guarantee that's going to happen with the current manager either.

Bit of a large assumption there.

Same shite one div lower, would still be the same shite, albeit at some different locations and possibly with cheaper pies.

BWFC_Insane · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:20 pm

Worthy4England wrote:

Bijou Bob wrote:

I'm completely cool with keeping Coyle. We will go down and I'll enjoy trips to more exotic stadiums in far flung towns where we actually have a chance of winning matches, as opposed to the last 4 years where at least 6 times a season, I'd sooner have just gifted teams the 3 points and avoided the matches.

Bring on the fizzy pop league - better football, far more equitable, a chance of some excitement, cheaper pies at away games.

You will enjoy it only if a) we have a chance of winning matches, b) it's exciting and c) there's better football. There's no guarantee that's going to happen with the current manager either.

Bit of a large assumption there.

Same shite one div lower, would still be the same shite, albeit at some different locations and possibly with cheaper pies.

Administration, 10 point deductions, watching our youth team get beat every week, 8 thousand at the Reebok every week...

Sounds great!

Worthy4England · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:24 pm

There's another benefit. Shorter queues for the pies.

Keep them coming.

BWFC_Insane · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:28 pm

Tell you what, that Tulisa off the X factor, she seemed to be able to motivate, had passion.
Get her in. Least it'd be sommat to look at.

William the White · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:47 pm

thebish wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:

People will laugh, but I'd take Billy Davies over what we have got at the minute.

And Mclaren....

Bruce yep...

There aren't many I'd not consider.

Roy Keane? Paul Ince?? they're both kicking their heels...

Behave!!! FFS!

thebish · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:13 am

William the White wrote:

thebish wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:

People will laugh, but I'd take Billy Davies over what we have got at the minute.

And Mclaren....

Bruce yep...

There aren't many I'd not consider.

Roy Keane? Paul Ince?? they're both kicking their heels...

Behave!!! FFS!

I was just testing BWFCi's threshold - but he hasn't come back...

CrazyHorse · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:44 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Tell you what, that Tulisa off the X factor, she seemed to be able to motivate, had passion.
Get her in. Least it'd be sommat to look at.

I like your line of thinking.
Maybe get Louis Walsh in to head the physio team too? There'd be nothing better at encouraging the players to play out of their skins than the threat of a post match rub down from the dinky Irish pop mogul.

Lord Kangana · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:31 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:

Lord Kangana wrote:

The money issue is self evident, I'm surprised anyone is still in the "you reckon" arena.

All the more galling he doesn't rate any of his cash signings good enough to play, don't you think?

You can't compare baked beans and caviar. Well you could, but it would be a bit foolish.

Megson dropped Elmander and never played Shittu. Just those two players cost more than Coyle has spent in total. We're f*cked for money, I can hardly blame the current guy for not having the funds to spend on decent players when the previous guy spent it on shite. its just a good job that Coyle got us one more season spending nowt and trimkming the wage bill, because if we'd have gone down in 2010 with the bloated wage bill we had we would have been consigned to oblivion.

Small mercies, if you're prepared think about it.

boltonboris · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:33 am

Derby, Forst, Cardiff and a few others charge £30+ for tickets.

On average, I bet it's cheaper watching Premier League football (as a Bolton fan) because of the catergory systems that clubs use. In that division, we'd be Cat A or B. In the Prem, we're usually Cat C

BWFC_Insane · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:04 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:

CAPSLOCK wrote:

Lord Kangana wrote:

The money issue is self evident, I'm surprised anyone is still in the "you reckon" arena.

All the more galling he doesn't rate any of his cash signings good enough to play, don't you think?

You can't compare baked beans and caviar. Well you could, but it would be a bit foolish.

Megson dropped Elmander and never played Shittu. Just those two players cost more than Coyle has spent in total. We're f*cked for money, I can hardly blame the current guy for not having the funds to spend on decent players when the previous guy spent it on shite. its just a good job that Coyle got us one more season spending nowt and trimkming the wage bill, because if we'd have gone down in 2010 with the bloated wage bill we had we would have been consigned to oblivion.

Small mercies, if you're prepared think about it.

So explain, if Elmander was shite anyways...

Why Coyle cannot match Megsons 1 PPG ratio with the same players?

Megson had a plan, it might not have been a good plan but at least we had one.

Coyle just sends 11 different players out each week hoping for the best. Clueless.

BwfcDan · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:39 pm

If we did get rid of Coyle, which im not saying we should. Out of the folk available it would have to be either Souness or Reid. Just to try and keep us up this season.

Lord Kangana · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:49 pm

I didn't drop Elmander.

You might want to ask Megson.

You're trying to answer a question that wasn't asked.

chester white · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:51 pm

Has Walter Smith been mentioned?

Bijou Bob · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:29 pm

Lets be honest with ourselves here. Under Megson, whilst bottom at Christmas, we beat the drop by a point or so despite the odds. This year we won't. The team don't have the wherewithall to do it. Neither will we sack Coyle.

Ergo, this thread should now be about where we go from the start of next season, the best way of getting ourselves back up and which players to retain or jettison.

Armchair Wanderer · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:35 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:

Lets be honest with ourselves here. Under Megson, whilst bottom at Christmas, we beat the drop by a point or so despite the odds. This year we won't. The team don't have the wherewithall to do it. Neither will we sack Coyle.

Ergo, this thread should now be about where we go from the start of next season, the best way of getting ourselves back up and which players to retain or jettison.

Can't really argue.

For me I'm hoping there are plenty of Yorkshire teams in the C'ship next year. So hopefully Leeds don't get promoted and Doncaster/Barnsley stay where they are. If both Sheffield sides got promoted I'd be happy but I'd rather not play Wednesday just yet.

Dave Sutton's barnet · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:48 pm

chester white wrote:

Has Walter Smith been mentioned?

Not until you did - he retired last May - but now you have mentioned him, he may be exactly the kind of wise older head Coyle needs. That and some idea of tactics, coaching, inspiration...

I'm intrigued by the idea of McClaren. Excellent coach (which we need), tactically aware, did well at Boro, would take the job. His vilification as England boss doesn't put me off - I'd also take Capello – and the Forest fans I know say he was utterly f*cked over by board and circumstance.

Of the other candidates popularly mentioned, I strongly doubt Hughes would take the job, Bruce is almost as much of a chequebook manager as Keane, Curbishley couldn't inspire anyone.

Lord Kangana · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:02 pm

Do Forest have any claim on him for the remainder of the season though?

Verbal · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:03 pm

I'll have to dust off the old tomes but I don't think bagsies is a constituent part of contract law.

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