Ivan Campo open letter

enfieldwhite · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:59 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyhood_%28film%29

Bizarre!

jaffka · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:05 pm

After reading the letter I feel very emotional...what a great player.

WANDERERS-FUSSELIER · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:05 pm

ultimatly it was in gartslimes time that these great players arrived.We never give our heros a proper farewell jj,youri,bruno,only the truly majestic HIERRO has had any sort of goodbye

Tombwfc · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:09 pm

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While i doubt his English has improved so much to be able to write that, it's the sentiment behind it that counts. I have no reason to doubt it comes from the man himself, Balague is a reputable journo (Doesn't DSB work with him? Perhaps he can find out definitively).

But yeah, i'm all for someone composing a letter in reply. And i hope he does sign for City Hull.

On another note, Commies right and i fully expect some members to come on here and tell us how Campo is self serving and 'needs to grow a pair'.

Fat Stelios · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:12 pm

What a legend. I cannot believe that Gartslime et al have not even wished him well for the future. :whack:

communistworkethic · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:12 pm

Tombwfc wrote:

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While i doubt his English has improved so much to be able to write that, it's the sentiment behind it that counts. I have no reason to doubt it comes from the man himself, Balague is a reputable journo (Doesn't DSB work with him? Perhaps he can find out definitively).

But yeah, i'm all for someone composing a letter in reply. And i hope he does sign for City Hull.

On another note, Commies right and i fully expect some members to come on here and tell us how Campo is self serving and 'needs to grow a pair'.

I suspected Guillem Balage may have transalated it from spanish?

Reckon he'll be at Rovers with Fat Sam

Hoboh · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:16 pm

communistworkethic wrote:

Tombwfc wrote:

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While i doubt his English has improved so much to be able to write that, it's the sentiment behind it that counts. I have no reason to doubt it comes from the man himself, Balague is a reputable journo (Doesn't DSB work with him? Perhaps he can find out definitively).

But yeah, i'm all for someone composing a letter in reply. And i hope he does sign for City Hull.

On another note, Commies right and i fully expect some members to come on here and tell us how Campo is self serving and 'needs to grow a pair'.

I suspected Guillem Balage may have transalated it from spanish?

Reckon he'll be at Rovers with Fat Sam

That would be TOO much to swallow would that!!!!!

FD · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:40 pm

Tombwfc wrote:

Commies right and i fully expect some members to come on here and tell us how Campo is self serving and 'needs to grow a pair'.

Not once have I claimed to never be contradictory, though I do think there's a difference between writing a letter of apology for something that really wasn't your fault (and was obvious anyway) and writing a farewell (and explanation, which is more than the club have given) to fans who chanted your name for years.

I find us snubbing him and giving him a quick phone call saying "you're sacked" a little hard to swallow...his legs might have gone but that letter shows he really loves the club, almost sounding desperate : "As a youth coach, a spanish scout...anything...please don't get rid of me" but there you go. As he rightly said, the other players and most people will just think "that's football for you" and it's true, that's how it goes nowadays.

Considering we're "little old Bolton" with a big team spirit etc, we sure as hell are hard-nosed when it comes to seeing off our "legends" and "heroes"... There's certainly a huge lack of sentimentality being shown.

Tombwfc · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:51 pm

I agree in that sentimentality has lost its place in football, and i'd have loved to have given him a proper send off. But, in fairness to Gartside/Meggo, it does work both ways, had we offered Campo a new deal and he snubbed us to go somewhere else would he have been going out of his way to wish Gartside all the best? I doubt it. Footballers these days are viewed not as people but as assets, and it's as much their own doing as anyone elses, once your shelf life is up you're moved on pretty quickly.

That being said, i still love Campo. Guillem Balague looks as though he can be contacted here (askguillem@guillembalague.com) if anyone wants to ask about getting a message passed on.

Fat Stelios · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:55 pm

Tombwfc wrote:

I agree in that sentimentality has lost its place in football, and i'd have loved to have given him a proper send off. But, in fairness to Gartside/Meggo, it does work both ways, had we offered Campo a new deal and he snubbed us to go somewhere else would he have been going out of his way to wish Gartside all the best? I doubt it. Footballers these days are viewed not as people but as assets, and it's as much their own doing as anyone elses, once your shelf life is up you're moved on pretty quickly.

That being said, i still love Campo. Guillem Balague looks as though he can be contacted here (askguillem@guillembalague.com) if anyone wants to ask about getting a message passed on.

I completely agree with you Tom. But I think the thing that sticks in the throat is that he was told via a "Two minute phone call". I don't believe that any servant of any organisation should be treated like that.

Leyther_Matt · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:57 pm

If Campo joined the Anti Christ at Ewok, it'd be even more gutted than when Le God went there.

That said, I know Ivan wouldn't do such a thing to his people!

He was absolutely atrocious when he first arrived, but we eventually got to see what a gifted player he is - absolute legend who will no doubt join the select ranks of Super John, Mixu et al in having his name chanted by the fans, even years after his departure.

Legend.

FD · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:00 pm

Tombwfc wrote:

I agree in that sentimentality has lost its place in football, and i'd have loved to have given him a proper send off. But, in fairness to Gartside/Meggo, it does work both ways, had we offered Campo a new deal and he snubbed us to go somewhere else would he have been going out of his way to wish Gartside all the best? I doubt it. Footballers these days are viewed not as people but as assets, and it's as much their own doing as anyone elses, once your shelf life is up you're moved on pretty quickly.

That being said, i still love Campo. Guillem Balague looks as though he can be contacted here (askguillem@guillembalague.com) if anyone wants to ask about getting a message passed on.

I know what you are saying Tom but you are comparing a completely hypothetical situation to one that has actually happened.

You don't sack someone by phone, it's utterly classless and just not the way things should be done. The club ought to be embarrassed by the way they've done that.

CrazyHorse · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:11 pm

He wasn't sacked.

And in a world where all employment details are usually dealt with by ruthless agents you could argue that a two minute phonecall was far more personal than the normal way footballers go about these things.

Campo is a legend and as sickening as it is to say he's part of the past and we need to move forward.

marshall_42 · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:12 pm

enfieldwhite wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyhood_%28film%29

Bizarre!

check it out now before it gets re-edited!

Leyther_Matt · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:14 pm

Good work! Lacking an Allardyce reference though.

FD · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:16 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:

He wasn't sacked.

Not in a literal sense, no. But it's the same difference really. If he thought things were all rosy and he'd be in for contract talks sooner rather than later, a 2 minute phone call is a bit insulting.

marshall_42 · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:31 pm

Quote:

Dear Guillem,

Thank you for publishing the letter from Ivan to the fans. Can I ask if you translated the letter from Spanish, or how it came to be published on your website? I am a member of a Bolton Wanderers forum www.the-wanderer.co.uk and all of our members are touched by the sentiments of the letter. I would be grateful if you could pass on our thanks and best wishes to Senor Campo and invite him to drop by on our forum anytime he is missing his fix of Wanderers appreciation. He is already a Wanderers legend and his name shall be sung for years to come!

Regards,

Quote:

Thank you Peter

I shall be sure to pass on your support through an email account we have set up for him.

I will be publishing, if you do not object, your kind words of support to him - anonymously, I shall just use your first name. I will put a few of your letters on the site this afternoon and I have just spoken with Ivan who cannot wait to read them. He is genuinely move by your responses

Saludos

www.guillembalague.com

.....so there!

Little Green Man · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:53 pm

What a mop-topped star he was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNd8VWnFW4

warthog · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:12 pm

Little Green Man wrote:

What a mop-topped star he was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNd8VWnFW4

I was just thinking of that goal. A pity the film doesn't show Campo, Nolan and a few others coming to the corner to celebrate in front of the fans there.

ratbert · **Posted:** Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:29 pm

If we want to write a letter of thanks to Ivan, might I suggest it take the form of a front page article? Then we send the link to Guillem Bagatelle and hopefully the great man will read it. Who knows?

So could any potential authors of such a letter please identify themselves... ta

Ivan Campo open letter

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